“Behind the Curtain” Podcast Episode #2 with author Ted Kluck

Episode #2 of “Behind the Curtain” is here!

(Check out Episode 1 with Ken Wytsma here if you missed it)

Ted Kluck is the author of 15 books, including Why We’re Not Emergent and Why We Love the Church with Kevin DeYoung, autobiographies of Robert Griffin III, Jeremy Lin and Jim Kelly, and most recently The Dropbox and Household Gods.  In this episode, Ted and I discuss infertility, the underbelly of Christian publishing, Christian celebrityism and wanting to punch popular false teachers in the face (which I chastise myself for, don’t worry — we were actually discussing the tension between gossip/sin and the biblical mandate to rebuke/refute false teachers and false doctrine).  You will be challenged and encouraged by this thought-provoking episode.

You can find Ted online at www.TedKluck.com where you can read his blog and see/purchase his books.

Ted and Zach’s publishing company empire: www.GutCheckPress.com

Ted’s podcasts:  Happy Rant Podcast and the Gut Check Press Podcast.

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Next Episode:

Will be interviewing Mike Morter, co-founder of the band Churchill:

Churchill’s hit single “Change” was released in 2012. The Change EP reached #9 on the Billboard Heatseekers chart and the hit single reached #17 on the Alternative Songs chart.

Churchill toured Europe with Pink, played on Jimmy Kimmel Live, and performed in the US with The Fray, Florence and the Machine, One Republic, Philip Phillips, Sarah Bareilles, Imagine Dragons and more.

Mike and I will talk about fame, being a celebrity, being around celebrities, touring, pressure, how Jesus and our identity in Christ can get muddled in that, and the insecurities that go with the ups and downs of the industry.

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Founding Pastor at Mosaic Church

Noah is the founding pastor of Mosaic Church, a multi-ethnic church in urban Grand Rapids, MI. He is a grad of Grand Rapids Theological Seminary.
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